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Darth Sidious vs Darth Maul & Savage Opress: What really happened? by Silver2467 December 28, 2015 169 comment been years because I wrote one of these, however I have plenty of product to work with for several entries in this blog series. The topic this day is on the duel between Darth Sidious and Darth Maul and also Savage Opress in The Clone battles episode "The Lawless."

In my experience, this fight is not nearly as misconstrued as the two previous blog I created of this kind, yet I do regularly see some users current this hit as portraying Maul, or also occasionally Savage, being in Sidious" power and also skill tier, i beg your pardon the events themselves fail to support. This fight is so plainly and for this reason unfairly play in Palpatine"s favor, i honestly can"t fathom how it can be misunderstood to highlight Maul"s formidability. But since that translate is regularly what we uncover ourselves dealing with, let"s dissect it point by point.

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To begin, below is a clip that the duel as it arisen on-screen in TCW. Having actually sensed Maul"s exploits on Mandalore, Sidious arrives on the earth in order come cement his own position in the Sith ranks to the exclusion of Maul and Savage who claimed the Sith title apart native Sidious" authorization. He tells Maul the his newly developed organization top top Mandalore end the Mandalorian armies and also the criminal cartels, as well as his suspect the location of Sith Lord in spite of Sidious and also Tyranus, is an affront to Sidious" very own plans for galactic conquest and calls him a "rival." He then fights Maul and also Savage, death Opress, and defeating and also capturing Maul alive.


There space several reasons why details scenes in this duel are, to be perfect blunt, doctored to portray Maul and also Savage together posing a major threat come Sidious in the food of this encounter. Among them space the truth that both Savage and also Maul each landed one unarmed win on Sidious. Savage rammed him, and Maul later kicked the in mid-air. This go absolutely nothing to obtain them any advantage though, specifically in Savage"s case. Wherein Maul and Savage only each hit Sidious once, Sidious linked no less than 4 unarmed strikes top top Savage prior to killing him and two unarmed strikes ~ above Maul, and a pressure Push mid-duel, and also on optimal of that, the hits Sidious linked inflicted an ext lasting harm. His second blow to Savage sent him flying backward and also lying face-down on the ground until he struggled to reclaim his composure some seconds later, and also the last roundhouse the Sidious threw at Savage stunned him and left him open to a stab through both lightsabers the Sidious automatically ended the challenge with. On Maul"s side, Sidious flourished in temporary knocking Maul unconscious with a telekinetic blast until he had actually mortally wounded and discarded Savage. On the note, ns could additionally mention the telekinetic regulate Sidious displayed at the beginning and also end that this battle, where he pins Maul and Savage come a wall against their will and lets them down of his own volition and later bashes Maul into a wall and the floor, both the which show just how easily he might have beaten both through the force alone had actually he not chosen to duel them because that his own entertainment.

By contrast, Maul and Savage"s assaults were hole attempts to damaged or incapacitate Sidious. Also the horn-ram the Savage launched Sidious turn off the balcony through dealt absolutely no clearly shows or implicit injury come him; this is significant because that very same horn-ram to be crippling versus Adi Gallia in the duel between her and also Savage on Florrum in the illustration "Revival." For the matter, Sidious also saw Savage charging towards him and also neglected come evade him, and all this strike served to accomplish was permit Sidious to force pull both the Zabrak brothers off the balcony versus their will certainly down into a reduced arena. In short, Sidious capitalized on gift rammed through Savage by changing the place of fight into a different chamber, and it benefits the brothers no at all.

Concerning the kick Maul connected on Sidious in the last phase the the duel, that also knocked Sidious away but caused him small if any kind of real damage. I give Maul credit for succeeding to struggle Sidious at all and consider that a an excellent display of fighting ability on his component to practice Sidious right into the waiting so that he could deliver his subsequent kick (although Sidious to be toying with Maul together I"ll be covering shortly), but once again, this resulted through Maul and Sidious simply closing the gap formed in between them through Maul"s kick and also ending the duel through a saberlock. ~ above account of this, the truth that Maul and Savage fight Sidious in no method reduces the overwhelming advantage he enjoyed over them transparent the expression of the entire duel. Their blows failed come procure castle an edge during the fight, they were shrugged off by an unharmed Sidious, and they were changed with an ext than double as many assaults that Sidious regulated to batter them with, come say naught of the fact that Sidious" blows were more forceful and harmful.

To address another allude championed to attribute an benefit to Maul and Savage, there is this behind-the-scenes clip "Wrath the the Sith" in which Dave Filoni, the supervising manager of TCW, remarks that Savage"s performance versus Sidious was much better than the Jedi the supervisory board members that Sidious killed in Revenge that the Sith. "You know, obtaining taken out by Sidious is quite good, ranking up there. That puts up a better fight than the Jedi board of directors did, I"ll say that lot for him" (1:24-1:33). Come that, ns agree; Savage did put up a much better fight than the Jedi council did. Not an extremely hard to carry out considering that the main starwars.com, on which "Wrath that the Sith" is posted, likewise said the Palpatine slew Saesee Tiin, Agen Kolar, and Kit Fisto before any kind of of them can react.

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Meanwhile, Sidious duels the Sith brothers, never ever wavering indigenous his position of superiority.

--Taken native starwars.com, The Lawless illustration Gallery, photo 21 of 23

Then, we have actually been noted with this event an overview that clarifies in the most basic terms just exactly how much Sidious surpasses Maul and Savage.

Upon arrival, Sidious declared the Sith brother to it is in his rivals. In an extreme duel, he eliminated Savage and also toyed with Maul, eventually deciding not to death his previous apprentice.

--Taken from starwars.com, Darth Maul story Gallery, image 33 of 33

According to this evaluation of what transpired, Sidious an initial killed Savage and also then afterward "toyed with Maul." To any type of dissenting views the Sidious had done noþeles on Mandalore as well as toy through Maul and Savage, this one line precludes any kind of other possibility. What"s most important around this subtitle of the photo is the order of description; first, it states that Sidious eliminated Savage, then claims he toyed v Maul. In various other words, even when Maul was enraged in ~ Savage"s death and also drew the darksaber in enhancement to his conventional lightsaber, and also he and also Sidious battled one another, Sidious to be still toying with him.

And v that, this whole debate has to be settled. Sidious was standing comfortably above both Maul and also Savage combined.

Now, to further elucidate on this duel, ns will short article the succession as described in the novelization Darth Maul: zero Conspiracy, which to my knowledge is no longer component of existing SW Canon. However, because that the purpose of Legends/EU information, this book likewise reinforces how minimal an initiative it was on Sidious" part to thrash the brothers.

The there was no sign shuttle arrived on the imperial palace’s platform, scheduled for Mandalore’s rulers and their most important advisers. The ramp lowered and also a hooded number in dark robes descended. The commandos rushing come intercept him got to for their throats, gagging, and also the cloaked number swept past them there is no a party glance, gaze addressed straight ahead.

The feeling had begun as a faint stirring in the Force, choose the tiniest ripple of something moving progressively through deep water, much away however drawing steadily closer. That intensified, until it felt favor the pressure itself was roiling, heaving prefer the sea in the fixed of an huge storm.

“I sense a presence,” Maul warned Savage. “A presence I haven’t felt since...”

And then Maul knew.

“Master,” the said, leaning front on the throne.

The commandos guarding the royal chamber got to for their throats. As Maul watched, an unseen compelled lifted lock high in the air, climate slammed them come the floor, where they place motionless in their red-and-black armor. The doors opened, climate closed behind a figure in dark robes. A deep cowl hid most of the face, leaving just a pale chin and a downturned mouth visible. To most eyes the guy in those basic robes that rough cloth was unremarkable, just an additional being make his way in the universe. Yet to those who can feel the pressure he was anything but ordinary. Come them, he to be a dark sunlight blazing v power that was simultaneously hypnotizing and terrifying to behold.

Darth Sidious, the reigning Dark mr of the Sith, had pertained to Mandalore.

Savage stared at the brand-new arrival in astonishment, transfixed by the sight. Maul felt himself leap indigenous the throne, mechanically legs clacking down the steps and toward his old Master. The motion was nearly automatic, involuntary. Maul’s more quickly memories to be of that hooded figure—his tests, his teachings, and additionally his torments. He had actually been Maul’s father, his protector, his torturer. He had been everything.

Maul halted before Sidious and kneeled, bowing his head.

“Master,” he claimed simply.

Sidious stopped. For a minute all to be silent.

“I am many impressed to view you have actually survived her injuries,” that said, the voice as rough and also cracked as Maul remembered.

“I offered your training, Master,” Maul said. “And I have built every one of this in hopes of return to her side.”

Sidious lifted his head slightly, and also Maul observed his yellow eye beneath the hood. Lock were as cold as space.

“How unfortunate the you room attempting to deceive me,” Sidious said.

“Master?” Maul asked.

“You have become a rival,” Sidious declared.

He elevated his arms and also both Maul and Savage flew through the air, smashing right into the elegantly patterned wall surfaces of the imperial chamber and crashing come the floor. Maul sprang to his feet and also ignited his lightsaber. Savage go the same. The two Zabraks stared grimly at the hooded figure. Sidious re-cover a pair the elegant-looking lightsabers from in ~ the depths of his robes and also ignited them. The chisels turned his pale challenge a hellish red.

Maul and also Savage didn’t waste time seeking an valuable position. They merely charged, knives shimmering, trying to overpower Sidious v the pet ferocity of your attack. Sidious caught their sabers ~ above his, the weapons howling and crackling whereby they touched. Maul experienced that Savage was startled by the seemingly frail man’s massive strength. Maul stared at his Master’s face. He saw the strain as Sidious called upon the force to store the brothers at bay. Yet there to be something else there, too—a disastrous pleasure. Sidious started to grin.

The three-pronged duel between Sidious, and Maul and also Savage had moved, favor some deadly ballet, indigenous the throne room come the measures of the palace. Sidious’s lightsabers twirled swiftly and also elegantly, turning aside the furious blows Maul and also Savage rained under upon him as the three Sith leapt and spun.

Maul had combated his Master countless times, starting when he was little much more than a child and also continuing v his apprenticeship. His body bore innumerable scars native those duels—lessons in the peril of gift too slow-moving or two quick, also weak or too distracted. During Maul’s apprenticeship the had constantly known the Sidious had been ready to death him. The Sith had not endured their centuries of exile by gift sentimental, and a student that couldn’t stand versus his master in a mere training exercise was worse 보다 useless—he to be a garbage of beneficial resources better used elsewhere. However Maul had never challenged his understand when that was actually trying to death him.

Maul had actually grown much more powerful since the critical time he’d remained in Sidious’s presence, before the Neimoidian invasion of Naboo had actually turned disastrous and Obi-Wan had bested him within the Theed power core. His hermitage on Lotho Minor, his class on Unbara, his restoration by mom Talzin, and also his maintain of Savage had actually all strengthened him, made the a more worthy vessel for the dark side to fill v its power.

But strong as he had actually become, Maul found himself in awe the Sidious. The Sith lord was astonishingly fast and efficient, and also the force flowed through him effortlessly. His sabers stabbed and also slashed through the smallest hole in one opponent’s guard, his activities never lugged him a millimeter out of position, and he could sense every strike Maul and also Savage made before it developed.

Maul tried come slash previous Sidious’s guard, just to find his grasp had provided ground, causing Maul to expand his arms also far and leave himself slightly unbalanced. It was the smallest stumble, quickly corrected, yet Sidious observed it—and pounced before Maul can draw self back. Snarling, he got to out v the Force and slammed Maul against the wall, leaving him lying stunned in a heap.

Savage knew the threats of encountering the Sith mr alone, and pressed his strike before Sidious draw his hand ago from Force-shoving Maul right into the wall. Teeth bared, Savage windmilled his double saber, hope to disarm Sidious or force him to provide ground. If that did, the would permit the yellow-and-black Zabrak to follow his initial strike with a lightning-quick thrust the would penetrate Sidious’s defenses and also wound or also kill him.

Maul tried come shake turn off his attack, rocketing increase from the floor. Sidious nicely side-stepped Savage’s assault, drawing earlier as the substantial Zabrak increased his double-bladed saber high to shot to pummel him through it. Savage didn’t think Sidious was fast sufficient to take benefit of the quick opening in his defenses, however he was wrong.

Sidious rammed one of his blades through Savage’s black armor, the glowing crimson pointer of the saber showing up between his shoulder blades. Savage gasped, his saber tumbling indigenous his grasp. Sidious yanked his weapon ago and Savage seemed to hang suspended for a moment, as if he were being levitated by v the Force. Climate he crashed to the ground.

Sidious stepped earlier as Maul rushed to his collapse brother’s side. A mist seemed to increase from Savage’s body, emerging from his wounds and also then from his eyes, ears, nose, and mouth. As Maul and also Sidious watched, Savage’s horns shrank and also the massive bands of muscle melted far from his chest and also shoulders. The last misty remnants of mommy Talzin’s magic prospered hazy and tattered, then dispersed and vanished, leaving the dying Savage lie in the covering of his now-oversized armor.

His eyes turned to Maul.

“Brother, ns am one unworthy apprentice,” Savage said. “I am not favor you. I never was.”

He take it a critical breath and lay still.

Maul looked up, saber in his grasp, and also stared right into Darth Sidious’s blazing eyes.

“Remember the an initial and only reality of the Sith,” Sidious said. “There can only it is in two, and you are no much longer my apprentice. You have been replaced.”

Sidious elevated his saber and flew in ~ Maul, that parried desperately, his mechanical legs whirring together he seek to respond to his previous Master’s blows. Sidious’s sabers to be a blur, a whirling cage of fatal plasma. Maul danced far from one blow, climate reversed his movement to prevent another, and then there were too countless to count, and also then there were even an ext than that.

Maul’s saber spun the end of his hand, bouncing away across the floor. Then Sidious seized his former apprentice v the Force, hurling him against the wall. Maul’s vision swam. The tried to acquire up, yet realized he was currently in the air, organized aloft through the Force. Sidious slammed him into the floor. Climate Maul was off the ground again, foot kicking for purchase in north air. He could taste blood in his mouth. His head hit the wall surface with a sickening crunch.

A happiness crept right into his head, a nagging sing-song bit of poetry.

Far above, far above,

We don’t understand where fine fall.

Far above, far above.

What as soon as was great is rendered small.

Maul can no much longer remember whereby he had heard it, or what that meant. He was broken, helpless, useless.

“No,” Maul heard himself gasp. “Have mercy. Please...”

“There is no mercy,” Sidious said.

Bolts of energy ripped the end from the Sith Lord’s fingers, tendrils of excellent blue and purple that danced across Maul’s tattooed skin and ripped with his muscles, his organs. His mechanically legs convulsed, shorting out.

“You belong to me,” Sidious said. “Your existence is now perfectly meaningless.”

He stretched out his fingers and also the power tore v Maul again. Sidious watched the lightning develop in intensity, his eye unblinking, his teeth gritted in a triumphant, destructive smile.

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--Taken indigenous Darth Maul: shadow Conspiracy

To recap from the novelization:

Savage is awed by the power Sidious radiates in the ForceSidious repels their an unified strength in a saberlockMaul is astonished by Sidious" speed and also efficiency through his bladesAfter death Savage, Sidious slowly throws continuous blows faster and faster until all Maul deserve to see is a blurring "cage" of light and numerous blows heading towards him, unable to block lock allSidious tosses Maul roughly with the Force, climate tortures him through Lightning

If anyone desires to dismiss the novelization ~ above the grounds the it no much longer represents TCW Canon, fair enough. In that case, to summarize what we"ve learned indigenous the illustration "The Lawless" and Filoni and also starwars.com"s descriptions:

Sidious hosted both Maul and Savage helpless versus a wall and willingly exit them in bespeak to engage in a fightHe smiles and laughs transparent the battle, enjoy it the contestHe traction the brothers turn off the balcony after Savage rammed himHe access time the brothers an ext times 보다 the inverseHe never ever wavers from his place of superiority, and he constantly holds the upper handHe dazes Savage with a absent twiceHe knocks Maul unconscious through a pressure PushHe dances about Savage"s last strike with impunity prior to killing himHe permits Maul to rush to Savage"s side, pausing the duelHe defeats an irate, dual-wielding Maul when toying v himHe telekinetically litter Maul roughly without Maul being able to mount a defense against his powerHe tortures Maul through Lightning

If all of that doesn"t assignment a clean, painless curbstomp, ns don"t recognize what does. Every single source the discusses this duel distinguish Sidious together the winner through a nation mile, and also the episode itself shown Sidious" amusement, restraint, and also inevitable victory. The facts are the facts, and also Maul and Savage together were never able to adequately oppose Sidious in a fight.